Hanging out with the Vlatkovićs! Horn legend Radovan Vlatković and his wife, performance coach Dinka Migic-Vlatković talk to Sarah Willis during this Horn Hangout live from Berlin.
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[Music] hi everyone are you all out there on Facebook we are trying something new today for the horn hangouts we’re very excited we’re not trying something new because we really wanted to do it today my website was actually hacked so it means we couldn’t get into the content manager to stream it on the webpage on the live page which most of you probably went to first but we have such a special day to guest today that
I thought today is the perfect day to try something new so everyone’s been working together it’s been a truly transglobal thing Tim and five stream I’ve been working in Australia to get the stream set up here with Jakob and George and we have one of my absolute horn heroes of all time Radovan welcome to the horn hangouts thank you again thank you this is the amazing thing because you are our very very first foreign hangout guess 2012 from
Australia that’s right Tim picked you up you were you were before me participating at a brass Melbourne Central your obvious and Tim my beloved Tim had meet him he came and said come on you’re gonna be live online that’s right talking to Sarah yes I didn’t know it was a verb but I looked forward to it and here we go and here comes
Justin such a way yeah I have to tell you guys when rather than and it came in today he just looked at the setup here I laughed hang out you can look it up online was was with a little webcam and you were sitting in the corner and they were people warming up it was noisy around that’s journalistic and and here we have this huge great big setup and we have loads of people watching this turn so inspiring
I followed some of your hangouts it has been so fantastic both I always saying just earlier both it you know good perfect balance between entertaining sort of content and serious in-depth talk so I enjoyed it as a as much as my students and my colleagues and compliments thank you so much yes entertaining and serious stuff too which one would you rather do today
I’d rather do yeah we have I want to see all your your question I can see see this is all new for me we have something really awful round of an look okay let’s just this is off alright presents oh so I think it’s coming through a little bit delay which means your questions are coming through a little bit delayed keep keep keep them coming because this is new
France for me with it with and to see my sister alright I think I’m going to stick a horn hangout sticker over my face and then I don’t have to see it but I can see it people are watching in Berlin in Hawaii and aunts Burton and pop star New York pops them New York Tampa Florida John
Mitchell in Manhattan good morning John Cindy you in Taipei I mean really didn’t notice sending I do this and they we own it Cindy’s that cities about G which shows us the best places to eat and Ray just is watching I was a high goodness studio watch party at the stephen f austin university in Nacogdoches producer mcadoo chain in texas negative no sir and my here my here watching hi sarah hi relevant from dima and my year really you got it was great you know this is feeling of horn hangout community that’s what
I think we started five years ago that’s right but we were saying no horn players are social beings we like you were getting some solidarity and like that we don’t fight on their own so we feel stronger together and it’s more fun it’s more fun why when I was studying I was actually quite a lonely lonely student and
I never had that feeling of community or our competition thing I felt around me that you know everyone was really involved in and being the best in getting the job I find it there’s much more support what do you find with your students could you well I’m thinking back to my own student days and since I was studying in my hometown of
Zagreb in Croatia then it was Yugoslavia at the time I also thought you know all the action was happening elsewhere we had only home a small horn studio only couple of us studying there so it would be in a very it was isolated as well although we were able to travel and then participating there in competitions or international to meet so that was inspiring but first some conferences that
I went to when I was maybe 18 which my future teaching professor me hope so organized interesting and those were really eye-opening and inspiring he just turned to I had a birthday the other day and so yeah yeah so it was wonderful to see him we met by chance in Munich it was great but he’s in great shape and
Ansari is everybody’s vegans on how do you say no that’s right that’s right that’s right that’s right that’s right yeah it’s all on the family here hopefully are the really big family I think there’s something benevolent about it so we cheer and good for each other well they’re all cheering and roofing I mean Jill Williamson Castle Christopher gong-gong okay from
Canada laughter yeah man well Google as a group are lucky Puerto Rico yeah oh my goodness this truly international and because I’m privileged trying to like you know you always feel maybe you know welcome and so on saying I sometimes wonder why we’re so complicated in other fields you know we’re not so politics today is ready for action right well would we need to take assume some example and inspiration for musicians and artists in general they’re also - someone that is doing some sort of talks for big management people about our musicians our how an orchestra works and the different functions line
I know they’re they’re often what sort of business of yours going on yeah we would get the ghost killer made shadows he’s singing up traveling but in his era was even more complicated so via via you know that but from these city or into the city because he didn’t have a proper visa something and in the night he was a failed a hero after the custard everything’s there goes on
Sedalia traveling so much more know how the first question okay probably people they’re coming in fast interior which is great so Reba Montreal’s but she’s watching in Tampa Florida she would like to know how to take care of your lips when you practice a lot let me swap what if you’re any kind of mom yeah well I try
I think I’m gonna have to do more than rollin but I use some kind of like jump stations like that specially if it’s cold or dry or terribly halter in other words I did when you serious I think I probably really happened it really bother my think about twice a year I feel like an animal shedding its skin on my lips really awesome and then in a spree and it sort of goes it’s a little peeled off and it doesn’t matter what is very cool innovative this one painting world or something like that so it’s important to drink water and keep water this is water
Guys I never laptop from Avignon Garcia commanded o-tar go to Costa Rica my child and look in Korea’s watching and mother also asks how will you get a chance to play for you will agree to come to Italy and how you have such a big and beautiful town to Molly I’ve ever with the next time you serve but
I’m sure somebody really which has been on tour about a month little filly the French were French lead ensemble good question I think I was first by for my heart I noticed and he asked me for recommendations and I mention a couple of colleagues and sometime we can decision I feel honored and it’s very you know it’s a lot of fun another guy you know recording last week and we did some
Sinfonia Concertante play with the munich chamber orchestra was wonderful some of the pieces were known what the most want some of them were less known like that we’ve laid out and did again and it’s expiring because it’s so spontaneous how they play and we’re also very good friends so I learned forever love and and we always have you know right
I say you’re right you’re is wonderful day every direction oh but you have deep roots incredible sound and I know it’s hard for you to talk about green love you do but but clearly people have said that they’ve already wrote in the chat and forth your sounds like butter or how the legato design or what is it what makes some people want to eat so we talked about short answers and my aunt to forgive me because
I think I went you know through different phases and since I was starting to play the horn actually suddenly in the state’s when I was very young but that I don’t remember much as play Simon telephone and so on so that wasn’t appropriate my son when I started later on especially white teacher who had been in France you know so
I think with his approach there wasn’t actually a French touch to it influence because he would play a piston ascending on the third summer on you don’t see many of anymore they’ve grown out of fashion but they had a good some singing vibrato light sound and that’s what I have started and I came to junior Mountain not seen salad yes - yeah you’re after and is like the opposite like the designer came to
Germany and then here in the orchestra building I have so many nice memories and that some of my colleagues and I was told to play as placebo but cut out the broccoli now so you have to buying something else and then I was experimenting with different instruments in them from where I came to my Paxton horn so
I think I went from one part of the spectrum to the other extreme you know from being very light very very dark and then we just try to you know you go and listen to be inspired and then is your ideal corn town I don’t think I had one in particular one but you get inspired by great players and by other instruments as well and
I was lucky early on to do chamber music fantastic musicians who have different approach to that and and of course as we all know the human voice being a true inspiration I’m going to look for my fellow singers and also for some colleagues I will mention Tom krauser the late fantastic finish but Swedish spoken bass baritone he was a teacher fellow teacher in
Madrid in the school where I teach at the school arena Sofia and he would be so inspiring in how how to sing how to be how to use your true voice not to color it not to manipulate it especially technically not so I think I’ve learned so much there’s a lot of similarities I found also with with larynx and openness ok flows and especially if you’re a young singer
I think because I’m not a singer myself and trying to sound as dark and as big and as rich and as an older singer I think their organ changes with time and probably there’s something similar with the tone playing or brass playing so it’s maybe a little bit tough and demanding to ask a young player to have this personal for scale fortissimo to the pianissimo we’re already just displaying auditions but
I think give yourself time to develop and I think when you find your true voice and I think you might on that and enjoy it in the process but I actually ask you how do you think you got yours so that it’s not just the students it’s also it’s this ideal as you say the ideal sound through the thing
I was using but are there anything of course everyone were all of us watching a horn nose you’re proud to be horn all right guys we’re about to be one of what can you weather any special exercises you did I mean I being inspired after that if this year is there anything you do every day do you find it gets a little bit harder as you get older or is it that changed also with time but when
I was a student my teacher asked me to do a lot of long sustained notes or slow interval studies and that’s what we did and that’s what I practiced for about an hour every day so that is a no-no but I sometimes do show it where to my students so that they know what we’ve gone through because it’s a certain process and then
I’ll tell you what the good thing about it was like sound development and control just in different dynamics and maybe information but the bad sign is that you are not very flexible when you’re doing so that when I when I learnt about other flexibility programs on I wasn’t able to do it at all so striking again the right balance so many things about right balance in life then
I tried to combine the two and also I realized later on when I was working in the orchestra I didn’t get to do a lot of exercises for the low range and so on to compensate because most of the playing is the high rate that’s not the case anymore because I don’t play in the orchestra so I have to consider also you know going up into a higher range and
I learned with my students together with my students so it’s a process of good it’s ongoing this is ongoing and it does also change I find it as we get older and the keeping material senses of the speed of the path yeah and I remember Norwood Helmand he practice more when he went to fourth horn and in the last few years of your career and he did before also having worked a fantastic woodwind player you know
I learned a lot about articulation how clearly you have to speak and maybe language comes into play very and I was speaking different languages and understanding the characteristics of the language have pronounced whether it’s English German Italian and so on in my my mother calculation so I think that has an influence but I was lucky to learn
English when I was a child so that almost did speak french french with you all i do and my friends yeah yeah when they get started I can follow but my face is getting a little bit yes yes there’s a question from Edie Lockwood you seem to be producing some incredible players if you’re teaching personal to the individual or do you have some basic themes
I think maybe that would also come under the the theme of what you said yes yeah a bit of everything uh you know when you come to a fitness studio and then they make a program where because you need to work on this so that’s I do try to have that approach or when it comes to particular school
I want to know about their interest and of course there are different stages some our master students over there they’re very advanced and others are maybe towards the beginning of their studies so I tried to consider that I make suggestions about repertoire but they are pretty also clear about what they need and remember also when I was starting
Ally Orchestra I realized it have to be stronger so I asked teach it particularly I could James at that time well I didn’t study goodbye there they have some lessons and just to get stronger to be able to play the full symphonic program because we don’t alternate the energy of an and and that was a challenge for me but yeah yeah
I do try to individually treat them there are some things like we warm up together so they will probably be familiar with the kind of things all the way we try to change that so it doesn’t get automatic and routine in the bad sense of the word so we talked a little bit but there’s conversation and usually not tired after that first hour and have fun have a quick cup of tea or coffee or something and then we go on individually and then playing with piano and of course
I encourage them to do chamber music but they respecting their personality and understanding their their strengths because we’re all different and I like sports and is trying to watch sports and learn from coaches you know if they know how to encourage them in the best way absolutely I think also that students today they have so much more at their fingertips so much more information
I mean I remember when I was doing the round with going to see all the teachers yeah and gathering that food I mean these days you know watching on hangout and you’ve got a lot of stuff dries it’s a lot easier but I find the students today are really they’re lucky they have all the maybe also allowing a lot of influence and influences you know listening to different players different kinds of music different instruments and all of that that comes in
I’m glad you say that so important that we don’t get we are horn nerves and we’re proud of it but we mustn’t get into this little fear only hold it off and and maybe experimenting you know I’m being inspired by other arts as well so like something profound and also from my wife dinky and it to give the whole person and personality to be a good musician as well and if our aspiration is to become a true artist then you have to be inspired by literature by poetry by painting
UNC image again rather than practice another half an hour you know and so things like that is that what’s giving you a lot of information I think so I think so because you know sometimes you mentioned Italy and you go to Italy and you see all these churches and amazing works of art and often you don’t even know who the artist is it’s not about the individuality but it’s amazing art that’s all there so we were just one in a long tradition and then it’s it’s humbling very good but you aspire to take it is wonderful to get inspired yes
I’m inspired all these people who are watching Barbara just playing Carrie she’s second holding the maps in New York good morning Barbara and she wrote that you are such an inspiration and it’s great to hear you then goal Scheider’s watching and he wanted to ask hang on where was his Odyssey I got like this much space for the question
Ben where’s her question you just wrote a question I there it is he wants to know how you maintain good chops with lots of practice lessons and performance so had I I know what he means where does the practice where the time for the practice I think I get to practice more on tour because sometimes we have a day off or something like that so except we’re not talking playing which is rehearsing and performing but real practice that you can do on a free day so
I think I do that more when I’m away sometimes also when teaching usually at the end of the teaching a towards the end of the day you manage that I find it is exhausting I took a break and then I tried to concentrate you find it the more I find the more I teach the worse I get
I think it’s okay to make mistakes while you’re teaching because that was part of it and it’s good to see you know we’re allowed to make mistakes it’s good I tell my students that you know we’re in a protected area and a laboratory explosions happen and that’s okay so you have the freedom to make mistakes and you have to get that in out of your system and it’s good we learn from our mistakes so shouldn’t be
I look at my mistakes here sorry I just stopped the stream on my iPad but everything’s okay with you guys everything’s going well I can see you when I get to say get to see you twice I just seen you twice yeah this is George George sacre de saucé user more teaching well that’s already a– that you already asked that you’re asking the question of where they come in i might have a good you know about teaching i think i’ve learned also that it needs to be much more two-way communication it’s not just delivering
I’m just looking for answers together I don’t claim to know I just don’t know about my own experience what I’ve learned from other colleagues you know the other day I was watching up more air more time yeah that’s what Sarah says that’s what she’s a little patient I went flying but like I tell ya could’ve thought of whatever it was ya know it was a
Sinatra building getting more time and more at that was it I I don’t think I I don’t remember learning about all the low horn stuff I remember just picking it up along the way and then while teaching and people want to know and then just playing and thinking okay how do I do it what do I do it my time teaching really makes you much more aware of what challenges that’s there and maybe in the beginning
I remember that you have to trust and believe the things that they tell you on students we made you do it more consciously more deliberately although our aim would be to do it in a way where were you know famous what do you call it flow or something well you just into the music part of it and you’re not aware of other process you just came in today that’s when the best music happens everybody says that’s when your best performance comes when you’re in there and and you’re not thinking about anything split notes tiny ideally yes but there are many nights where you struggle because
Of many different reasons and that’s why technique comes in you know I have to know how to help yourself and to see sighs I just just you know if you if you have time to warm up you know where you stand unfortunately the more experience you get more realistic so you get the picture today I feel awful oh and
I get that when you wake up yeah yeah yeah with the holidays and all this feels terrible but can you just give yourself more time and of course maybe positive experiences you know I know that I’ve played okay even when I felt terrible so the more that kind of experience you have when you consider pull yourself over here out of trouble and believing that you can do it so yeah and like for this ridiculous so inspiring
I’ve learned so much for her also the courage you know courage and deciding to do things before because you know it’s going to be a couple of places and so on and making courageous decision at that time and knowing you’re going to go that way and even if you’re feeling well the village is calibrating and knowing where you stand and going which way yeah that’s it oh there’s a nice question
Richard in the Marquesas do you have any advice for returning seniors and I love this on the horn hangouts because I get lots of letters from people who have discovered the horn again yeah and have maybe played it in their youth and and and then realize what a great community don’t you and they started practicing again surgery any advice to returning team well we have a festival in and
Switzerland coming up international horn festival in Japan which is close to listen and the nice thing about that is that it’s it’s a mix of amateurs and young player students and professionals it’s wonderful and there I see people who haven’t lost the joy so I would stress good that the joy is maybe the most important thing of course it’s more fun like you were telling the other day to practice together so if you can get with other colleagues and play cortex is more fun it’s less tiring and so on you get in shape but maybe as regular as possible or or as time allows your
Area but I think I’ve you know I’ve listened to some times my colleagues and chamber music roots but also in orchestras how professionals warm up and they come back to the simplest of exercises so it’s not you know it shouldn’t be never too easy because if you play too and nice longer length you know can I ask you some about that that something on my list to ask you um
I did I just say play together play as much as possible it’s always better than the minute you discover the little horns to do that you can play a duet with somebody else’s it’s just fantastic but one thing I don’t really enjoy is group format and that’s one thing you do you you you do use them I’m right and very difficult to coordinator or also to be pop yeah it has its limits of course because we’re all different and we don’t feel maybe it’s selfish on my part because
I need that time also for myself so I just but I still believe that there is something to gain from it because that’s another possibility and I have tons of books because maybe we were deprived and we didn’t have so many you know pieces of material when I was studying so I got everything I could and I keep buying new material and then we go through different things so we kind of practice together but on the more complicated things everybody gets a shot and then you know you learn from each other and we have to do the work everything like this make a scared rabbit
In the rover group warm up and knowing I had to go to a doctor and even if it was me and I just yeah yeah yeah but also learning yes but learning though we’re doing things together because we will be working together later on there so yeah there are limits and then something some days I just love them to leave the wall nothing and do their thing so that it’s it’s fair but
I would just crush I would disinterested yeah I don’t want to close on that I think it’s okay because I remember how inspiring it was to play with my teachers you know whether it was chamber music or something like that so I believe there’s something to be gained and I remember how inspiring I played some chamber music with ham on bomb and to hear him just next to me a meeting articulating so beautifully and everything that was fantastic or
Eric or so Eric it was giving us lesson or something like so inspiring to have them lying next to you so yeah and I would just also really regular on my hangouts your hangout but I can’t say it more often when if you can go and listen to orchestras live going this is a great players live every time you’re in a you know people here in the film will need let us know coming listen to a rehearsal you know stuff like just that’s it it’s a roller coaster and you just can’t be sitting
YouTube horn Hangouts they’re all great but you can’t be the logic yeah yeah that’s right what we’re doing all this live music but survive you and I prefer and Radovan very interesting questions came in I’m glad it did because it leads off on to our next segment okay Jeff Armstrong have ours - rather than what are some of the things you do rather than to keep mentally fit some things to keep yourself focused or come back from a bad experience now before we even go to answer that you are one of the luckiest men in the world because you are made to dinner and
I felt totally in love with your wife in a proper way when she came in on the horn hangouts as she’s done to live horn hangouts and is that she’s how would you describe it to the performance coach life coach performance coach and I worked with her then myself without being live online on skype and I learned an awful lot from her and that’s why
I think you’re one of the luckiest guys I will because you have all her knowledge and she been a huge help for you yes she has but in many different ways support in every possible way helping with with concerts and of course taking care of the family because there was so much else to it well your children absolutely and many many different yes yes but
I’m really happy to see you guys we are not only it’s just not to us today we have I promised you a special appearance and I think it is waiting here and we just we just have to get her on camera to talk about some of the stuff - would you come and join us huge round of applause wherever you are sitting and watching this yeah welcome thank you for welcome thank you for having us both here everybody’s out there everyone has to adjust your camera you are like yep you make your nation so if any of you just don’t happen to know about
Dinka de vie would we would we call you that of a performance coach or life coach yeah I call it mental coach or mental training because I want to really yeah put an accent on this mental preparation and um did you practice on him well I learned a lot from him we don’t want in too many secretive but we would like a couple of secrets yeah okay yeah
I learned a lot from from another one is seeing how he is doing it and also asking thousands of questions how and why before fulfillment Timothy Jones is written in tell Radovan if he dyes his hair I’ll dye mine from Vienna Brooklyn for tonight good-looking jogging on hopes you split every entry okay so I want to see that the two of you getting on the hair dye
I do apologize I thought that was really good to admit that so back which attracted the performances we don’t dye our hair do we nope no no no but an actual perform at a mental coach yeah try pressing on relevant or not or you learned you did you decide that’s what you were trained already though I mean yeah yeah not specially for musicians not specially for musicians
I am trained as a psychotherapist and I learned a lot from sports psychologists and from the sports mental trainers I learned a lot from them because I think it’s very similar this train and yeah demands of the job and focusing concentrating it’s also physical yeah so so I actually learned a lot from them because when I started there was not so many mental trainers specialized for musicians there weren’t we’re there
I’m at college I remember having it was look for sure I always mention again and again yeah yeah but now it’s normal no it’s this present also invest more although what I think it’s it’s still a lack of practitioners so to say there are there’s a lot of research in the meantime a lot of fear is how to say but not then many practitioners who really work directly especially with the students
I love to work with the students because I think when when they start properly then young young yeah really when they start properly it’s much easier to learn a good habits from the beginning and not to correct the things when it gets rough here to say so if I think it would be wonderful that that young students have this help at the beginning do you do what you somebody just asked could you tell us where you’re teaching
I mean you teach iconic by great jumping in class where we live at the Yucatan we’re taking Jim Zurich yeah yeah Apple sugar that comes to there and I also go to ok in Madrid yes yes so how I know you don’t you want to be loyal to your students we but everybody knows all the students and even all professional translators just because we play in the
Berlin field doesn’t mean scares us it doesn’t scare us but do you find that this is something that students are more open to working on now because I don’t remember anyone working on anything like that everyone when I was studying yeah yeah we do mention the importance of that and that’s one of the segments that we have to dedicate some time with but
I’ve learned from Dinkas lectures because she does lectures for everyone but if it’s a bigger group she works workshops for smaller groups and then she works also individually so whatever they need but like you said some people are so natural that you just leave them where they are because they know how to deal with it some understand the importance of it but but have their own strategy and then when it comes to those people who strike who struggle maybe then they they need the tools the skills the knowledge which will help them keep things in check and perform their best because we all have potential
And talent and then we just feel that we’re not maybe always able to give it all because of different things that disturb us so it’s it’s working on lessening that disturbance and just how do these people grow the ones that don’t think that you let be because they seem to be strong enough ha ha difficult to say
I think it’s really it’s it’s a character it’s also a lot of upbringing from home some I really like it to have supporting parents and supporting teachers and then somehow they just you know bloom so to say and and it’s it’s really important to know how damaging it could be of teachers parents how do you environmentally and do workshops for teachers and parent
I do that I get that a lot not short parents I didn’t reach the parents but for teachers yeah for teachers in the music schools I do a lot and I feel that this is really a very important part of my work right I really do so so this is one thing why somebody as you say why somebody feels more strong and what sort of a person that isn’t oh he is very stable otherwise he wouldn’t cope with me both of it so one thing also important is that the what
I realized the musicians you know they start very young and they are very disciplined and it’s on one hand it’s great of course because it brings them far but with this discipline they also learn how to ignore the signals of the body signals of their exhaustion and everything they just keep on doing keep on doing they use they use yeah they users train the it uses discipline that they learned very early on and and this is where
I struggle you know to say come on you know it’s about you and your health it’s not only about success and the next performance it’s about really your life and your health and and this is my work closest anything my if I add those things that work when you’re age ten to work on yours ten to thirty or forty how do you adapt and you change the what is it you have to change the amount of my dad works well or the one important thing
I always say if you only start to think and to realize to notice what’s going on just ignore the signals yeah not to ignore the signals of being tired being exhausted I’m hearing all the Skype session you know why I’m like oh yeah I heard that how much was that have I been actually doing yeah really end and then not so many
I don’t know techniques or tricks the first and the most important is really to notice your body to notice yourself just to be there and to say okay here and that’s how I feel that’s already helping because what we do we are either analyzing what happened or we are planning tomorrow and and the next season or and we are not you know here realizing how we feel like home players and our chops viola player one tell me you want players you are never you are never feeling good in the moment you’re either you’re either tired from what you played before or you’re you’re saving your
Soul from what’s coming next but you never feel good on the day and he’s right and that’s a that’s related so I think that’s there’s the frick frick so to say is really you know stop make a break notice how you feel where does it hurt you know and what can I do about it and things like that do you do you sense these warning signs yeah
I think you can try try and be forgiving to yourself you know how would you advise a good friend if they’re feeling alone go down for whatever reason you know you would Pat them on the back and I give advisor or listen to their story so you’re going to be a little more forgiving with yourself and then
I follow they’re the things that I follow Dinkas advice about is just try to move then so I’ve gone home after a long day teaching Sandman listening to my coach and I’m moving anything it sounds like that you can sport moving yeah well not very sporty but but but at least moving yeah yeah so yeah like you said little changes can go a long way has it ever been something you’ve really suffered with being nervous or you’ve been lucky enough to have been able enough upbringing
I noticed that nerves have gone up and down for probably different reasons sometimes I didn’t just and sometimes I know why because like the preparation difficulty of the piece and so on but now I’m just starting to accept sometimes when I’m not nervous because I would get worried about that sometimes if I’m not nervous okay enjoy it and
I don’t get worried about that not feeling number hi everyone hi right now I was very very very happy happy about it Cindy Anderson Dean say what kind of things you talk to teachers and parents about I think you just you just answer that really well have you read fergus’s book it touches on a lot of things that you are talking about no
I didn’t I saw I give you a copy about okay and but basically what I I mean I wanted to get you two together son because we can have a lovely cup of tea afterwards anyway but um just to just to talk about about studying today about about all these different things that are available for students because as you say it’s so much easier to deal with when you were younger and so that there’s just a lot out there people like yourself - fantastic
Horne Hangouts with you we had so much fun dinner it is also what about the professional who finds that they’ve turned a corner and then it’s made me suddenly not as easy as it was or or things get scarier than than they were I guess it’s a soul with maybe you could just cancel I never know Kancil no no that’s enough enough not enough for different reasons but
I think I think with some students I do remember that after having maybe participated in some fantastic you to Orchestra projects you know it is a little bit of a disappointment to go into everyday routine with the orchestra and it’s not always a highlight and it’s not always a triumph in in every major European city so that that’s when the routine comes in but it’sa it’s a fantastic opportunity to end on the job and
I would have never wanted to miss my time in Yorkist I stayed eight and a half years and the Orcas trying to learn so much so I think you know learning and allowing yourself to time for different experiences with this chamber music orchestra solo learning from others there’s a time for everything you’ll find orchestral until for each a music consider playing and not easier is not the word for it but that that’s your you prefer doing that to playing in an orchestra there was a decision made which
I took a long time to take but I again we think of support like I finally did decide to me about three or four years to make a decision to leave the orchestra with maybe more the freedom of choosing a conscious thing I wanted to do rather than somebody deciding for me this is going to be the program of the season and
I have less input influence on that so but that’s been good but but it’s a fantastic experience to plan the orchestra but it wasn’t something that made you more nervous and it’s just different it’s just different I remember I was reading these books that you mentioned on mental practice because I think I would play a business infamy one day and then
I would have to step out and in at least 10 or 15 metres and play music and chatter and why does that feel more difficult maybe it’s technically not really more and more demanding it’s just different so I think when you have to grow into that role it’s again about to approach and that was a project at some time and it’s not easier or more difficult it’s just different annually first the world you choose and enjoy it learn about it and do as much as you can do you find do you meet people along the way and you think ok he’s more suitable he’s more
Suited to doing that she shouldn’t ever be a soloist do you feel everybody has a chance I think I think it’s a personality for sure I personally I play the violin I would even if I would be the best in the world I would prefer to play in the orchestra I love the sound that the playing with a group and to belong to another time oh yeah so
I think it’s it’s the type of personality and I think it’s not less or more demanding actually it’s where do you enjoy making music the best you know where the youth feels actually the best so but there are some people who would like to maybe play solo concertos which are too scared or too too worried about I don’t know if you remember as a violinist we we talked about
Machado be that the violinist who was scared to death on the stage so he used to play behind the the orchestra and behind the piano and he used to play even trend with his bag were here to this of the audience yeah and why and he played and I read one interview with him and he said yeah
I don’t like it I’m scared I’m sick after it and before it but the music is so important and I want to share it and that was his motivation you know to do it although he really felt sick doing it but he said the music is so important we have to share it I have to say so that’s the ultimate goal
I think for all of us position but it’s maybe also nice to say that being nervous only normal but it shows a certain sensitivity but without we couldn’t be good musician said of course it’s not a totally non natural situation it’s like I don’t know how many thousand people so if you get nervous that’s expected that’s part of it yes on a good day
I can feel like I’m just so happy to share my love of you yeah that’s a good day you know and when that works from posterior of course there are the days are just economy it’s done as you saying there’s a love of music should be greater than the fear yeah yeah and your passion and love of instrumental music that you prevail and there you have to convince yourself again and again again that’s why we do it almonds
I absolutely agree this is worth and you can tell us how come how can people work with you how could how can they attend your master classes horn players usually know where rather than is going to be oh come on come on running so that I’m like oh the promotion material is version I mean yeah we will be together in the
DOS book here end of August so that’s it up our trainers are getting a nap in Rostock your birthday together yes too late tell us what what are you planning to do yeah well mental training and lectures and for horn players I’ve worked on this North Georgia the coin tag yes you just do that I will work in
San men as well Simon listen to the 52 if you did what do you think are you you the horn players are really off to you with this world not only the great years old thing as the fingers a lot yeah figures a lot are you find some a she’s working with home pleasant to you and fingers are more disciplined what do you guys think you agree nothing is more disciplined oh okay aha yeah singers singers at well on my my experience the singers and the piano players they when you tell them to do something they do it you know horn players when you tell
Them to do something they would love to change something but they yeah not so easy to persuade to do something service that process the information but it process that’s a very nice way of putting it you mean ignore it ah interesting okay okay well um but you are very involved in what’s all this is let’s just the festivities
I know mr. Lind yes yeah I line up rather on Richard Watkins Lukas Florian’s to find being lovely I I think it’s tastic that people are doing that these days no thank you this is not something that we all the thing is I mean I think you have some hard exercises you have to do and you really have to do them and
I know from firsthand you think I want to sit still and think about how I’m feeling today I just want to show I just want to do stuff yes but I told you it’s a if I ever write the book it will be the title will be five minutes but every day so it’s about really a few minutes and not to like kill
I I really try to make people think more about it and being more just yeah we’re more why we practice upon every day almost every day so why shouldn’t we do this mental changes every day actually okay there’s one who’s visible yeah well well sue the cameras are awful some people are thinking for the link for the horn hang a
Facebook page for the for the course in Rostock so we’ll put that up for you don’t worry yeah your love of music should be greater than your fears people are loving that Dillon just repeated that because it’s so much fun Radovan you visiting a Royal Academy in London next year yes we’re having a chamber music project there so look great - amazing this -
I feel like a nerd i from Argentina I mean really this is we love it you know it’s just a wonderful feeling of feeling connected for for an hour and I know yeah we can’t go on forever I can see online streaming team going on how do you think guys how we doing we’re getting towards the end because
I have a little surprise at the end here do let us know where you’re watching from if you haven’t done already we’re so happy that you’re all there and watching and I’m just thrilled to be having an afternoon with a family black kovitch now there’s something I have a present for you two guys two as well George
I read I think volumes oh wow yeah a big one no well I might be too big that was Eric five yes one oh good good good luck benefit I see perfectly China exactly but there is something else that I’d like to do today you can you can watch yourself on the horn again thank you and it’s actually our birthday it’s our birthday the horn hangout has started five years ago with
Radovan and it’s not exactly to the day five years but I just wanted oh that’s going to collapse well that’s good to stand up there there we go here we go I thought any excuse to have tea and cake and so I bought a birthday cake but I hope we’re going to we’re going to like a liberal and rather bask in the glow mouths so here’s a five years of hangouts we’ve come a long way we’re live on
Facebook which is absolutely unbelievable in metallicity we can turn that off nice no look if you guys going to celebrate with us there we go oh there we go no way back it’s a good okay are we gonna sing happy birthday no no I mean finally the wrong you guys so grateful of course - Tim Tim Kelly
Hansen Tim who set this all up with me yeah call from Bell so who’s sitting behind squishing behind the video everything um he’s been on everyone as well and I just couldn’t do without you guys George and Chris and I would just like you to go yeah let’s make a wish to make a wish for thank you for for all the layers and yeah here we go happy birthday forever we are going to have some tape and some tea and you guys make you so much thank you for having us closer is always so happy that the
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